NFT: Mets vs Dodgers: Gm 3 ⚾Peterson (L) v Paxton (L)⚾ 4:10 pm ET (2024)

Check out the Minor League thread for May below:

We'll be doing one each month for the rest of the season. It'll be easier to consolidate info this way and for everyone to be able to follow along any news and information centering around the club's various affiliates.

NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm

*For reference purposes, here is the link for the previous month as well:
NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am

poll of the day what was worse for mets

a) duaner sanchez cab driver
b) jerry blevins worn out shoes slipping on a curb
c) team puerto rico's WBC celebration

Tim Healey
@timbhealey
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Breaking: The Mets put Edwin Diaz on the IL with a right shoulder impingement.

Josh Walker is called up, four hours after he was sent down.

Here are links to today's game:

*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets vs. Dodgers | 4:10 pm EDT start - May 29, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary, Keith, & Ron (strfish.xyz)

Mets vs. Dodgers | 4:10 pm EDT start - May 29, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Dodgers’ feed – SportsNet LA (strfish.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets vs. Dodgers – May 29, 2024 - 4:10 pm EDT start

Enjoy today's game 😊

RE: poll of the day what was worse for mets

In comment 16526878 Eric on Li said:

I'd go Choice "A" believe it or not.

Right shoulder impingement?

The leg injury was more significant than I figured it would be

Obviously it was a serious injury, that I had no doubt.

But I underestimated the amount of power he generates from his legs. The velocity is down, and I guess it would make sense for there to be strain placed on his arm if he has to adjust to weaker leg power.

One-third of the season is over and these turkey are 22-32.

RE: RE: poll of the day what was worse for mets

In comment 16526885 Optimus-NY said:

Think id actually go B. That 2015 team was so close and the Royals team had some lefties who wouldn't have liked Blevins.

All 3 options have merits.

RE: One-third of the season is over and these turkey are 22-32.

In comment 16526891 Optimus-NY said:

zips just updated their projection for ROS and it was 78-84, so they see them as a slightly above .500 roster though that was with Diaz. without him id guess the projection trends closer to yours.

RE: RE: RE: poll of the day what was worse for mets

In comment 16526892 Eric on Li said:

I think I'd go A as well

And...

RE: And...

In comment 16526903 JayBinQueens said:

crappy injury but if it had to happen, it will give baty and vientos a chance to play ever day in big leagues.

Who are waiting on to come back from the I.L. still?

1) Alvarez (coming back in about a month)
2) Senga (who knows when he'll be back. Post All-Star Break perhaps?)
3) Diaz now (15 days)
4) & Drew Smith--no loss there lol (sometime in the next month or so I'm guessing).

Am I right? Anyone missing?

P.S. They need to do something with one of the backup catchers before Alvarez comes off the I.L.

*Now Pete looks hurt having been hit in the index finger of his right hand it looks like.

Alonso out....

So, the "problem" of finding a way to play Baty and Vientos has been solved...at least for the time being.

By the way, fuc@ the WBC....

The

RE: Who are waiting on to come back from the I.L. still?

In comment 16526906 Optimus-NY said:

1. believe dmm said alvarez starting a rehab assignment tomorrow? so he should be mid-June.

2. Senga is back at square one basically, so he is 4-6 weeks best case even with no other setbacks.

3. i would guess diaz is shut down for some amount of time (15 day IL to start likely means more than 1 week) so then probably needs at least a 2 week ramp/rehab. i doubt we see him again until he is in full form.

4. drew smith is back in rehab appearances, i think dmm said he'd originally had a set back.

pretty sure we are getting awfully close to a full on youth movement.

RE: RE: Who are waiting on to come back from the I.L. still?

In comment 16526914 Eric on Li said:

Yup. Tomorrow with Bing for Alvarez. Smith had a set back and restarted his rehab (made his first appearance on Sunday) for the Cyclones. We won't be seeing Senga or Diaz anytime soon.

marte has looked bad at plate to me for a while but under hood

he is somehow still holding up ok with the bat even though he has been 0 value on the year. speed totally gone and defense has to be among worst in mlb despite his very good arm. hopefully there is a team with some DH/COF at bats available willing to roll the dice on marte even at a severely reduced price.

McNeil needs a change of scenery

Can't imagine how much of his contract Cohen would have to eat to make it happen.

He looks miserable and gives up on AB's which he never used to do.

1/3 of the way thru the season with 14 RBI's?

He picked a great year to win a batting title, that's for sure....

McNeil

RE: McNeil

In comment 16526928 DanMetroMan said:

mcneil has shown very little this year and he has the partially torn elbow. im not sure anyone is going to be all that interested even if he's close to free.

marte has something in his bat still so there may be a team willing to take a flier but totally agree, mets have to pay almost all of his money (or maybe what they dont pay they eat in a contract the other team is looking to move).

RE: RE: McNeil

In comment 16526941 Eric on Li said:

McNeil's reputation off the field is also not exactly that of a guy who is going to be cool being a part time player either. Not ideal for another team trading for a guy who looks awful right now. I don't think either one would be moved without Cohen eating big money.

this seems like pretty good velocity from peterson

dont remember him over 95mph much in the past.

RE: One-third of the season is over and these turkey are 22-32.

In comment 16526891 Optimus-NY said:

Meant to write 76-86, not 74-88.

2023

RE: 2023

In comment 16526949 DanMetroMan said:

7 pitches over 95 just today.

nido is not a good hitter but he has hit the ball hard this year

barrel rate and avg ev likely going up after todays homer. narvaez days likely numbered, and rightfully so he has been awful.

Interesting play to end the inning

Ira : 5/29/2024 6:03 pm : link

adam ottodonezo

pretty typical pitch mix from peterson today

maybe a little less curveball/changeup than usual.

Thomas Nestico
@TJStats
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David Peterson made his return from the IL today with a solid start against the Dodgers.

Peterson generated a good amount of chases and held the Dodgers to 2 ER. His stuff graded out about average, and his sinker limited damage.

…

Put another "L" in the books...

Mets postgame show on SNY is weird.

Who cares about Lopez throwing his glove into the crowd?

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David O'Brien
Verified

@DOBrienATL
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7m
David Fletcher -- yes, the infielder -- started tonight for Triple-A Gwinnett and pitched 5 innings of 3-hit ball with 2 runs, 1 walk, 6 Ks. Struck out Jackson Holiday among others. He features a knuckleball. They've used him to pitch a few times but this was his first start.

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Abbey Mastracco
@AbbeyMastracco

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2m
Jorge Lopez’s expletive-filled explanation of what happened with the 3B ump went a bit off the rails, he said the Mets are the “worst team” and he thinks he embarrassed them. He doesn’t regret tossing the glove.

What an unlikable group this is

It's not enough to just be bad, it's to be as bad as they are and expensive. The highest payroll in MLB. Brutal.

No one should be off limits. Trade everyone.

Is this a record for the shortest amount of time that

a new manager has lost a team?

I have nothing against Mendoza, but what a disaster.

lopez dfa'd

guess we know why he was available for 2m
good reminder why "you get what you pay for" is usually truism

good for lindor saying that the team meeting had nothing to do with lopez and losing that game had nothing to do with lopez. his comments re the meeting were interesting and seemed genuine.

big spotlight on stearns and mendoza to show something tangible beyond DFA'ing a reliever practically begging for his own release. in terms of clubhouse morale this feels like the lowest point of both rojas and mick the dick, minus the sexual harassment (hopefully). also a good reminder why a respected pro like buck was such a popular choice in the first place. something is rotten in there and they need to root it out.

RE: poll of the day what was worse for mets

In comment 16526878 Eric on Li said:

Boddy Ojeda's hedge clipper has entered the room.

I'm not expecting them to fire Mendoza after one season

But it's not looking good. It's not even June yet and the Mets circus is back in town.

And what happened today won't be the last bizarre thing that happens this year, I think we all know that.

He has to show some kind of pulse that he can handle the clubhouse.

In the words of Michael Ray Richardson

"The ship be sinking."

110 games to go is a lot of baseball.

Mendoza? Can't blame him for the ugly numbers the highest paid players are putting up, but you've got to wonder how long he lasts.

Buck is probably thanking his lucky stars he's not a part of this mess.

Meanwhile Cohen seems most interested in the issues he's having with building his casino and entertainment center....

RE: I'm not expecting them to fire Mendoza after one season

In comment 16527102 moespree said:

he doesnt strike me as in over his head as callaway did at this point. i remember pretty clearly thinking very quickly that callaway was a mistake they needed to get rid of to the point of wanting terry collins back.

this feels more like luis rojas in august 2021, when ironically they got swept by the LAD with diaz blowing either 1 or 2 games. watching a wreck happening in slow motion with a manager frozen in time.

there's time for mendoza to save himself, all he has to do is find a way for this team to not continue shooting itself in the dick.

And Stearns needs to show some kind of pulse that he can

run this franchise. I never expected the Mets to contend this season - maybe they could eke out a WC spot if things line up - but I also didn’t expect them to be a disaster. An embarrassment. If anything, I expected Stearns to inject some stability in the franchise.

Lopez is another notch in the growing list of his piss poor signings. This team is also full of proven players that continue to be worse players. Get a hold of your team, David.

somehow actually found the fire callaway thread

we are 12 days from the 6 year anniversary. i dont specifically remember what comments callaway made that i was referring to but i think it was when he pulled syndergaard from a game he shouldnt have and then had to apologize to the team for it (along with other apologies he made when he screwed up the lineup card, and probably some others).

spoiler alert, the mets did only get 1 more season with jdg, thor, and wheeler together healthy, and it was with mickey callaway.
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Rock

Bottom?

Somehow, I don't think so...

RE: And Stearns needs to show some kind of pulse that he can

In comment 16527119 CooperDash said:

I'm pretty sure he has a hold of the team - keeping in mind he basically has been here for 6 months. You need to simmer down.

And why don't you mention Severino, Manaea? Two very good signings so far. Imagine where this team would be without them? Shudder.

Lopez and Wendle were nothing more than filler signings. Do I love that they didn't give Vientos a shot right away, sure - but he's here now, isn't he?

This team stinks right now because Diaz is back to being a headcase with physical maladies that may or may not exist. Their 5 or 6 highest paid players generally comparative to their contract value, and expectations altogether, have just all have sucked tremendously.

I put this entirely right now on the players - it's on them and put the metrics aside - really there's something going on off the field or that needs some shaman magic to resolve but I think it exists between the guys like Alonso/McNeil who came up here and the guys brought in on big deals. I think you are going to see McNeil and Alonso jettisoned but probably stuck with Lindor and Stearns has to find ways to quasi build a new core with him as part of it with Alvarez and other prospects.

RE: RE: And Stearns needs to show some kind of pulse that he can

In comment 16527248 Sammo85 said:

i think they are in different situations but i do agree that there is probably some form of a rift along these lines.

this is just a theory to try to unify some of the weird problems across so many different leaderships since 2021, but i think there was a natural jealousy that probably emerged between homegrown players who werent paid (and all hired Boras) and guys cohen was bringing in and handing record deals to.

it is a natural human emotion to want "theirs" but the problem is many misjudged themselves. started with conforto who turned down a rumored 100m+ offer from mets. then played poorly in a contract year and ultimately got less. and now we have pete doing the same thing after 2+ years of rumored extension discussions he passed on.

mcneil actually took the reasonable extension off his batting title year, i think his problems are more wear/tear and maybe personality related. he seems to not handle struggling well.

i think nimmo and lindor were good extensions but created a false hope that everyone was going to get paid top dollar when that's just not realistic. and while both are comfortably all star level players neither has risen to the mvp level of a judge/soto. if alonso truly cared about winning as much as he says he would have quietly signed a deal along the lines of what olsen got. imo that in part is why braves are braves and mets are mets. they have chosen guys who care more about focusing on baseball without distractions even if it costs them a little $.

alonso/boras wanted to (and have) portrayed him as the met version of judge, but when it came time to do what judge did in his walk year he obviously hasnt done that.

One question about the Lopez blow-up,

RE: One question about the Lopez blow-up,

In comment 16527379 Section331 said:

he was referring to himself. that he looked like the worst teammate in mlb for getting himself thrown out.

what he said was honest and not wrong, sny did a sh*t job portraying it when he didnt have a translator with him and was clearly not communicating his thoughts the clearest.

this is a very good thread on it from a met beat who was there

and went through the full tape.

Manny Gómez
@MannyGo3
(1) On the Jorge Lopez debacle and the weird debate that followed. Let’s put this in context.

Lopez was visibly upset when we walked into the clubhouse, long after he’d been ejected, tossing his glove into the stands.

He looked like he’d been crying at his locker. 🧵

Manny Gómez
@MannyGo3
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2h
(2) English is not his first language, not a cop out, a fact.

This is evidenced by the 3+ minute audio I, along with other reporters - the Mets beat is awesome BTW - combed through.

It was difficult to understand a good portion of it, especially the clip in question.

Manny Gómez
@MannyGo3
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2h
(3) He says, “I think I been looking (like) the worst teammate probably in the whole f---ing MLB.”

SNY posted the clip with the quote: “I think I’ve been on the worst team in probably the whole f---ing MLB.”

Key word: “looking” doesn’t make sense (or appear) in the latter.

Manny Gómez
@MannyGo3
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2h
(4) Later,
@SteveGelbs
asked Lopez to clarify if he said, “I’m on the worst team” and Lopez says, “probably, yeah.”

This is undeniable, though I still feel with an interpreter by his side, it doesn’t play out this way.

Manny Gómez
@MannyGo3
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2h
(5) Later, Lopez doubles down on both “team” and “teammate” after the game, away from cameras, a source told the great
@AnthonyDiComo
.

This is after a person with knowledge of the situation told reporters Lopez was being DFAd FWIW.

At this point, what’s the difference?

Manny Gómez
@MannyGo3
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2h
(6) This isn’t a matter of making excuses for a player, who had dealt with mental health issues in the past, clearly having an on field breakdown that continued long after the game ended.

Lopez was wrong for his actions. He’s wrong for blasting his team in his clarifications.

Manny Gómez
@MannyGo3
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2h
(7) His actions on the field + denying to the press that he had met with team officials + cursing in front of cameras in a postgame interview forced the Mets’ hand.

I hope that he’s receiving the help he needs in this time. Something clearly wasn’t right from what I could see.

RE: RE: One question about the Lopez blow-up,

In comment 16527384 Eric on Li said:

Got it, thanks. It's too bad, I thought he was pretty good, and at least he gave a sh*t.

RE: RE: RE: One question about the Lopez blow-up,

In comment 16527394 Section331 said:

agreed, i think he clearly had something snap on the field though. when things get bad here it's a challenge for anybody and some guys just cant respond the right way to it.

sny did a sh*tty job trying to make what they didnt even know if said or not sound worse than it was.